Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (2024)

Last updated on May 07, 2024 at 11:20by Oxi66 comments

General Information

On this page, you will find out the best talents for each tier for your Subtlety Rogue in World of Warcraft —Dragonflight 10.2.7. We also have default talent lists for various types of content, such as raiding or Mythic+.If you play with Warmode on, we have your PvP talents covered as well.

If you were looking for WotLK Classic content, please refer to our WotLK Classic Subtlety Rogue talents.

Within this page, we will go over every single talent available toSubtlety Rogues. Many of them are only passive effects, butthey all can have an impact on how the spec is played, whether active or passive.To see how these choices fit into how you play as a Subtlety, take a lookat the Rotation section of our guide.

Subtlety Rogue Rotation and Cooldowns

1.

Talent Cheat Sheets for Subtlety Rogue

While optimizing talents on a contextual basis is the highlyrecommended method of setting up your build, the talent builds listedbelow work great for specific purposes.

1.1.

Single-Target (Invigorating Shadowdust) (Raiding)

The go-to build for all Single Target Encounters in Raid.

You can easily import the talent tree below into the game by clicking 'Copy Export String'.

1.2.

Single-Target (Non-Invigorating Shadowdust) (Raiding)

The Dark Brew build for raiding for most encounters.

You can easily import the talent tree below into the game by clicking 'Copy Export String'.

The suggested builds might differ based on the current tier's bosses, so make sureto read the dedicated raiding page below.

Subtlety Rogue Raid Page

1.3.

AoE/Cleave Invigorating Shadowdust (Mythic+)

You can easily import the talent tree below into the game by clicking 'Copy Export String'.

Due to the dynamic nature of Mythic+, different affixes and dungeons can changeour choice of talents. Check out the Mythic+ page below.

1.4.

AoE/Cleave Non-Invigorating Shadowdust (Mythic+)

You can easily import the talent tree below into the game by clicking 'Copy Export String'.

Due to the dynamic nature of Mythic+, different affixes and dungeons can changeour choice of talents. Check out the Mythic+ page below.

Subtlety Rogue Mythic+ Page

2.

Subtlety Rogue Class Tree Talents

The Class Tree for Subtlety Rogues is fairly straightforward, and the fewchoices you will have are mainly utility options, which we will talk about in thissection.

2.1.

Rows 1-4

With the redesigned talent trees, your talent options can change quite a bit. The biggest change you can make in these rows is swapping Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (1) Improved Sprint or Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (2) Master Poisoner for Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (3) Gouge/Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (4) Airborne Irritant for some more CC options. However, untalenting Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (5) Master Poisoner is not recommended.

While Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (6) Master Poisoner does not increase our output, it makes ourSubtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (7) Atrophic Poison reduce the target's damage dealt by 3.6% instead of 3%which means that you should always pick this talent for progression raiding.

2.2.

Rows 5-7

The options in these rows are quite limited. However, with the redesign, we are now afforded more utility options than we were before. The only must-have DPS options in these rows are Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (8) Subterfuge and Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (9) Improved Ambush. There is a new talent (Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (10) Stillshroud) that reduces the cooldown of Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (11) Shroud of Concealment that can prove useful in mythic+ and for raid trash skips.

2.3.

Rows 8-10

These rows give us the meat of our DPS options in the class tree. The redesigned opened up two charges of Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (12) Shadow Dance for Subtlety Rogue with the move of Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (13) Nightstalker instead of Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (14) Find Weakness (which has been relocated to the Subtlety Spec Tree). There's a lot of contention around Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (15) Acrobatic Strikes at the moment, but it was made clear that Blizzard views it as a DPS talent and intend to keep it where it is at

3.

Subtlety Rogue Spec Tree Talents

With 10.2, Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (16) Black Powder becomes baseline for Subtlety rogue, so the difference between the ST build and the M+ builds comes down to you either take Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (17) Shuriken Tornado, or you don't.

3.1.

Rows 1-4

If you played Subtlety Rogue prior to 10.2, you'll notice a completely new Specialization Tree. With that, you'll see Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (18) Find Weakness as the starting talent, and you'll see now that we get access to the beloved Shadowlands Conduit Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (19) Quick Decisions. You'll also see the choice node of Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (20) Cloaked in Shadows/Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (21) Fade to Nothing has been moved into this part of the tree. Overall, you'll take the same 8 points in every build for PvE purposes.

3.2.

Rows 5-7

With the new tree comes new gateways, which means this part of the tree opens up a bit more. You'll notice we no longer take Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (22) Gloomblade (although that is always still an option if you want to drop Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (23) Replicating Shadows, but you lose out on the 20% damage bonus to rupture doing so). For Mythic+/AoE/Cleave situations, you drop Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (24) Weaponmaster and pick up Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (25) Shuriken Tornado.

3.3.

Rows 8-10

Much like in our class tree, these rows are packed with output options. Including the new Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (26) Shadowcraft and Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (27) Goremaw's Bite. If your only care is output DPS, the points you place in these rows are pretty much automatically decided. We always take Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (28) Flagellation and Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (29) Deeper Daggers and round it off with Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (30) Finality, Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (31) Dark Shadow, Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (32) Danse Macabre, Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (33) Dark Brew. The best simming single target build also always plays Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (34) Inevitability and Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (35) Shadowcraft.

4.

PvP Talents (War Mode)

If you choose to, you can enable "War Mode." Enabling War Mode providesthe following benefits:

  • PvP talents enabled in the outdoor world.
  • 10% increase in World Quest rewards at maximum level.
  • 15% more experience gained while leveling.
  • Earn Conquest Points, which can reward gear every week.

With the benefits of enabling War Mode for leveling and PvE content, it isrecommended to enable the feature to maximize your leveling and rewards atmaximum level. However, you will make yourself available for open-world PvP,and the possibility of being "ganked" while leveling or doing World Questsexists.

Subtlety Rogue PvP guide

4.1.

Subtlety Rogue War Mode Talents

In this section, we will rank the PvP talents best for leveling and doingsolo / small group PvE content. Below is a ranking of both General PvP Talentsand Subtlety Rogue-specific PvP talents.

4.1.1.

Recommended Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents

  1. Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (36) Death from Above is just a stronger Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (37) Eviscerate./li>
  2. Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (38) Dagger in the Dark — Whenever Stealth is active, you apply a debuff tonearby enemies that causes them to take an additional 5% damage from your nextShadowstrike. Stacks up to 8 times. This is nothing special, but still a slightdamage boost.
  3. Only two of the Honor Talents increase our DPS while outdoors, so the lastchoice is up to you on which one you think suits you the best.

Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (39) Veil of Midnight, Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (40) Shadowy Duel, Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (41) Silhouette,Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (42) Smoke Bomb, Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (43) Thick as Thieves, Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (44) Distracting Mirage, Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (45) Control is King,Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (46) Dismantle and Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (47) Maneuverability have limited use in PvE contentin terms of increasing your damage in the open-world.

5.

Changelog

  • 07 May 2024: Reviewed for 10.2.7.
  • 22 Apr. 2024: Reviewed for Season 4
  • 20 Mar. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.6.
  • 15 Jan. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.5.
  • 24 Nov. 2023: Updated to add Shadowdust Talent Builds.
  • 06 Nov. 2023: Reviewed and Updated for patch 10.2.
  • 04 Sep. 2023: Reformated talent tables and descriptions.
  • 10 Jul. 2023: Small recommended talent updates.
  • 11 May 2023: Changed recommended talent to Flagellation over Dark Brew.
  • 09 May 2023: Added the new talent build with Aberrus tier set.
  • 01 May 2023: Page reviewed and updated for Patch 10.1.
  • 20 Mar. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
  • 14 Feb. 2023: Updated recommended single-target talent build.
  • 24 Jan. 2023: Page updated and reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
  • 17 Dec. 2022: Fixed import string for single-target spec.
  • 11 Dec. 2022: Updated recommended talents.
  • 28 Nov. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight launch.
  • 31 Oct. 2022: Changed recommended Raiding talent build and added comments on possible talent choices on certain rows.
  • 25 Oct. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight pre-patch.

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Subtlety Rogue DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.2.7 (2024)

FAQs

What is the best rogue DPS spec Dragonflight? ›

Outlaw Rogue's DPS is less bursty, meaning it had more consistent damage. With 71.39% less difference in lowest and peak DPS during a fight when compared to Subtlety Rogues.

Is Subtlety Rogue good in Dragonflight? ›

Introduction to the spec

It can tackle almost any kind of damage scenario, even three target cleave situations. On top of that, subtlety seems to be a spec in Dragonflight that has not become more complex and involved to play. Rather, it's the opposite, which is a good thing for a majority of players.

What is the best specialization for rogue Dragonflight? ›

Best Leveling Spec for Rogue in Dragonflight

Out of all three Rogue specs, we recommend Subtlety as the best choice for leveling. It offers the best single-target burst damage and allows you to dispatch enemies within only a few seconds, jumping from enemy to enemy in quick succession.

What changes in 10.2 sub rogue? ›

Subtlety Rogue Rework in 10.2

The most notable change is Shadow Blades. The spell is now on steroids and refills your combo point bar every time you use a combo builder. This has a heavy impact on the damage profile and changes Shadow Blades from a more passive cooldown to a major burst one.

What Rogue spec is the easiest? ›

Personally, Outlaw is the easiest of the rogue specs to succeed with. Sin and Sub do not have a lenient burst. If you mess up or miss a window well there goes your DPS. Outlaw is bloated with what you have to press, but missing your burst window is not as devastating.

Is subtlety better than assassination? ›

Best AoE DPS (in perfect settings)

Subtlety Rogue achieved 19.56% more AoE DPS than Assassination Rogue when there was no movement or lag.

What poison should a subtlety rogue use? ›

Crippling Poison. Increases your unmounted movement speed.

How to be a better sub rogue? ›

How To Improve As Subtlety Rogue — Dragonflight 10.2. 7
  1. Overcapping Resources.
  2. Pooling Energy.
  3. Using Cooldowns Together.
  4. Knowing How To Sim Yourself.
  5. Analyzing Your Mistakes as a Subtlety Rogue.

Which race is best for rogues? ›

Deep gnomes, high elves, eladrin elves, tabaxis, kenkus, tieflings, githyankis, halflings, owlins, and fairies all have race-specific traits that can greatly benefit a rogue character.

What is the best rogue subclass? ›

The Soulknife is the strongest rogue subclass in the game.

Using ultra-powerful Psionic abilities in concert with their immense mechanical qualities and bountiful flavor, the supremely balanced rogue subclass excels in any campaign.

What race is best for Rogue Dragonflight? ›

Best Alliance Races for Assassination Rogues
  • Night Elf is the best race by far on Alliance. The active racial ability, Shadowmeld has great synergy with the Rogue class. ...
  • Human is the second-best race on Alliance. ...
  • Orc is the best race on Horde. ...
  • Blood Elf is the second-best race on Horde.

What is the best potion for a sub rogue? ›

Subtlety Rogue Health Potions in Dragonflight

The best healing potion for Subtlety Rogues is Dreamwalker's Healing Potion. Potion of Withering Vitality can safe your life in an emergency, but be aware of the side effects.

Did sub rogue get nerfed? ›

Blizzard has posted upcoming PvE class tuning coming with the Weekly Reset which includes a Sub Rogue nerf and a Frost Mage buff! As always, we've closely monitored data on class performance as well as player feedback.

Is sub rogue gear dependent? ›

Gear is one of the most important elements in WoW to strengthen your Subtlety Rogue, providing massive amounts of stats as well as armor, procs, and set bonuses. In this guide, we will explain how to obtain the best gear for your Subtlety Rogue in and how to check if a piece is BiS, an upgrade or just bad.

What is the best Dragonflight rogue race? ›

Best Alliance Races for Assassination Rogues
  • Night Elf is the best race by far on Alliance. The active racial ability, Shadowmeld has great synergy with the Rogue class. ...
  • Human is the second-best race on Alliance. ...
  • Orc is the best race on Horde. ...
  • Blood Elf is the second-best race on Horde.

What is the best Hunter spec for Dragonflight DPS? ›

Beast Mastery Hunter is a highly mobile ranged DPS spec. It is the only Ranged spec in the game that is able to fully execute its rotation while moving. This makes it incredibly useful for dealing with mechanics in raids and dungeons, as it can do these things with no damage penalty.

What is the best DPS for beginners in Dragonflight? ›

WoW Best Class for Beginners

Hunter: Hunters are a ranged DPS class that is great for beginners due to their simplicity and versatility. They have a wide range of abilities that allow them to deal damage from a distance, control the battlefield, and even heal their pets.

How is Rogue in Dragonflight? ›

Dragonflight Rogue Overview

Rogue is a class that uses energy for its abilities. His attack can be divided into two categories: builders to generate combo points and finishers to spend them. This class has one of the highest APM in the game so we wouldn't recommend it for new players.

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