Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (2024)

Last updated on May 07, 2024 at 11:20by Shadenox32 comments

Choosing the right PvP and PvE talents is a prerequisite to proper performancein PvP. This guide goes through the various talent choices available to you asa Subtlety Rogue and gives you the best combinations you can take.

This page is part of our Subtlety Rogue PvP Guide.

1.

Regular Talents for Subtlety Rogues

There is one viable talent build as Subtlety. It features all thetalents that empower finishing moves in order to have powerful burst damageduring Shadow Dance, especially with Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (1) Shadow Blades active.

1.1.

"Finisher" Build

1.1.1.

Build Highlights

This build emphasizes the damage of your finishing moves - Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (2) Eviscerate,Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (3) Secret Technique and also Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (4) Rupture. Multiple talents are picked tospecifically make those spells more powerful. The goal is to have decent sustaineddamage with Rupture and swiftly dispatch your targets every kill attempt with hugehits from Secret Technique and Eviscerate.

Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (5) Rupture is empowered by Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (6) Dark Brew, which makes the damage becomeShadow and increase it by 10%. Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (7) Veiltouched increases it by another 5%, asShadow damage is magic damage. Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (8) Finality allows every second Rupture to be buffedby another 15% (Finality is halved in PvP combat). Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (9) Deeper Daggers further empowersRupture by 8% during your kill attempts, as it now deals Shadow damage. Add to that themodifiers that empower finishing moves, such as Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (10) Deeper Stratagem and Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (11) Secret Stratagem,as well as the modifiers that increase damage on your goes, such as the talent Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (12) Dark Shadowand the spell Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (13) Symbols of Death, and you have a very powerful Rupture.

Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (14) Eviscerate is empowered by Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (15) Shadowed Finishers, increasing its damageby 30% as Shadow. Because Shadow damage is magic, this part ignores armor. Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (16) Dark Brewincreases that part of the damage by 10%. Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (17) Veiltouched increases it by another 5%.Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (18) Finality allows every second Eviscerate to be buffed by another 15% (Finality ishalved in PvP combat). And finally, Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (19) Deeper Daggers further empowers the Shadow damagepart by 8%. Add to that the modifiers that empower finishing moves, such as Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (20) Deeper Stratagemand Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (21) Secret Stratagem, as well as the modifiers that increase damage on your goes, suchas the talents Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (22) Dark Shadow and Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (23) Danse Macabre and the spell Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (24) Symbols of Deathand you have a very powerful Eviscerate.

Last but not least Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (25) Secret Technique is empowered the same way as Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (26) Eviscerate,Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (27) Shadowed Finishers and Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (28) Finality aside. While the initial hit fromSecret Technique deals Physical damage the two following hits from your shadow clones dealShadow damage. This is why every modifier mentioned above works with Secret Technique. Assuch, it is essential to use Eviscerate shortly before Secret Technique in order to activateSubtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (29) Deeper Daggers for a substantial damage increase.

2.

PvP Talents for Subtlety Rogues

You can choose three of the following PvP talents; each has uses, but some are better for certain strategies than others.The top three choices are the most useful but can be replaced with other PvPtalents depending on your team's goal.

2.1.

Mandatory PvP Talents

Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (30) Smoke Bomb creates a smoke cloud around you. Enemy players who areoutside the cloud will not be able to target anyone inside it. This talentis mandatory for multiple reasons. Firstly, it can help you land a kill bystunning a target when they have no trinket. By using Smoke Bomb right afterthe stun, you will prevent the healer from saving their teammate. Secondly, youcan use it defensively to save yourself or an ally from a lethal castabout to go off, such as Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (31) Greater Pyroblast. And lastly, you can use itto prevent incoming crowd control on you or your team if such crowd controlwould result in you losing a game, such as a Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (32) Polymorph orSubtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (33) Repentance on your healer when they have no trinket, and you are low onhealth. As you can see, this talent is helpful in many different situations,which is why it is so powerful. Note that, as Subtlety, the cooldown is only2 minutes.

Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (34) Shadowy Duel places you and the enemy you cast this on in a duel.You can only interact with each other and no one else for 5 seconds.This talent is mighty. You can use it on an enemy at low health toprevent the enemy healer from saving them while you finish them off. If youdo not have the damage to do so, you can use it on the enemy healer togive time to your teammates to finish off your kill target. You can also use iton an enemy killing one of your teammates. Since they will be locked inthe Duel with you, they can no longer attack your allies. You can also use it onan enemy casting a significant spell on one of your allies. Since youwill phase them in the Duel with you, they will never throw the spell. One thingworth knowing is that inside a Shadowy Duel, everyone has Truesight, whichmeans that both you and your enemy will see through Stealth or otherinvisibility spells. The consequence is that if you try to Duel an enemy tosave an ally and then Vanish to be safe, the enemy will still be ableto see you and kill you. In the same way, if you Duel a Rogue and he usesVanish, you will be able to see him, Sap him, or kill him.

2.2.

Situational PvP Talents

Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (35) Thief's Bargain is a PvP talent with a lot of potential. Having Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (36) Vanishmore often means you can survive more or set up more for your team. Alongside the talentSubtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (37) Without a Trace that gives you a second Vanish you have it very, very often ! Italso allows you to make greater value out of the talent Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (38) Invigorating Shadowdust.

Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (39) Dismantle is a strong PvP talent that allows you to disarm an enemy for 6severy 45s. It is a great pick against Warriors, Hunters, and Rogues. Disarmingan enemy can delay their next kill attempt or stop it entirely if they have pulledthe trigger.

Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (40) Veil of Midnight has become a decent defensive option in some specificscenarios since it was recently nerfed. It allows Cloak of Shadowsto cleanse physical debuffs on top of magic ones. It is very useful againstFeral Druid, Assassination Rogue, or even Arms Warrior.

Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (41) Thick as Thieves is a strong PvP talent when playing a setup compwith an ally with very high burst. With this, you can further amplify theirburst damage by 15% for 6s, which can be the reason why the target dies. Thedownside of this talent is that you have to spend a point in Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Dragonflight 10.2.7) (42) Tricks of the Trade,something you don't necessarily want to do.

3.

Changelog

  • 07 May 2024: Reviewed for 10.2.7.
  • 22 Apr. 2024: Updqted for Dragonflight Season 4.
  • 18 Mar. 2024: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.2.6.
  • 15 Jan. 2024: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.2.5.
  • 06 Nov. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.2.
  • 04 Sep. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.1.7.
  • 10 Jul. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.1.5.
  • 30 Apr. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.1.
  • 21 Mar. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.0.7.
  • 25 Jan. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.0.5.
  • 11 Dec. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight Season 1.
  • 22 Nov. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight pre-patch.
  • 28 Jul. 2022: Reviewed for Shadowlands Season 4.
  • 31 May 2022: Reviewed for Patch 9.2.5.
  • 23 Feb. 2022: Updated for Patch 9.2.
  • 10 Nov. 2021: Updated Tier 2 Talent.
  • 06 Oct. 2021: Updated Tier 3 Talent.
  • 21 Jul. 2021: Updated Tier 3 Talent.
  • 04 Jul. 2021: Updated for Patch 9.1.
  • 28 Mar. 2021: Rewritten by Shadenox and updated for Patch 9.0.5.
  • 18 Mar. 2021: No Updates Made for Patch 9.0.5
  • 05 Dec. 2020: Updated Talent Table.
    • Updated Tier 6 Regular Talent.
  • 27 Oct. 2020: Updated Talent Table.
    • Updated Tier 2 Regular Talent.
  • 14 Oct. 2020: Updated for Shadowlands pre-patch.

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